Morris’ letters: 11 October 1814 – regarding his wish to be discharged



Gosport. September 14

My dear James

I deferred my Reply to your former Letter on the subject of Corporal Morris Williams  in the hopes of being soon enabled to give you  some decisive information, but in order to  avoid any apparent inattention I am now by your second note reduced to the necessity  of assuring you that I have it not in my  Power to acquaint you with the Period at which  the 2nd Battalion may be reduced : and until such Communication is made it will naturally  occur to you that it is impossible for me to  know what Extent may be allowed to Command[ing]  Officers in the discharging of them.

At the same time I beg to app[ … ] you that  Corporal Williams (unluckily for your purpose) is  such a description of soldier as a Command[ing] Officer  could wish to retain, & therefore with every –  desire to meet your wishes I am apprehensive  there will be considerable difficulty in conscientiously complying therewith

This Declaration however you must consider  to be made in the state of uncertainty that I  have before expressed to you, but if the Terms  of the Reduction may offer a favorable –  Opportunity you may rest assured that I  shall feel much pleasure in attending to  your Request

I must request you to present my compliments to Mrs James and believe me very sincerly yours

A. Dalmer

The 1st and 2nd Battalions are both assembled here



R. 18th of Instant

Gosport 11th October 1814

I Received your Letter dated the 3rd of this month and am Glad to find that you are all in your usial Health as I am at present, and in which I was Informed of the answer of Colonel Dalmer to Colonel James but I am afraid that Colonel Dalmer will not Discharge me without an order from the Commander in Chief, and I Desire you to write back to me as soon as posible and mention the answer of Colonel Dalmer to Col. James, and mention that you are very Desirable for me to get my Discharge to assist you in your old age and that  you will send the money up as soon as you will have answer whether  I should have my Discharge or not, and that Letter I intend to show it to the Colonel and then I expect to have some answer either good or bad, the 2nd Batt’n  is to be brocke up on the next 24th we are all to joine the 1st Batt’n exept few unfit for service and I expect to have your letter before the 24th for the Colonel to see it, no more

M Williams

Answer 19th of October for me by John Bowen Tredeued



[John Williams, Morris’ father, writes]

From Tredeued October 19th 1814

My Dear Son,

Yours of the 11 of this month I have this morning Received, and  agreeable to your wish I have sent you Col’l Dalmers answer to Col’l James respecting your obtaining your  discharge, the purport of which is as follows Col’l Dalmer informs Col’l James that it  was at that time impossible for him to know at what time the 2nd Bat would be reduc’d, but when the period would arrive, and the oppertunity appear he would do eve[ry] thing in his power to meet Col’l James [ … ] in regard to your having your discharge

My dear Morris, I find by your letter there the 2nd Ba’tt  is to be reduc’d on the next twenty fourth, believe me my dear Boy that there is no pleasure on this earth that the Almighty could favor would recover than me with as that of [ … ] you [ … ] more at home & free, to comfort and assist your mother and myself in the last share[?] of Old Age and infirmity, In reguard to the money, I shall instantly comply with your wishes (as far as my feeble means will allaw when I next hear from you provided they will be wanted, at the same time were it poss[ible] you could obtain your discharge without money [I] should for ever feel gratefull to the Col’l for [ … ] my circumstances at present are very low indeed

John William


This letter sent to Morris 19th of October 1814


This is the letter, is Morris ask in the next who wrote it John Bwen Tredeued was the Man, on the day above mentioned in it.

Morris’ letters: 17 November 1814 – discharge matters



R. 2nd of December

Gosport Barracks 17th Nov’r 1814

I received your Letter dated 19th of the last on the 28th of the Same and Imediately took it to the Colonel without any answer of him untill last week and he told me that it would be beter for me to stop for about six weeks and then he would write himslf to the Commander in Chief for me. The reason of him not writing now is because there is So many of Invaleeds and Seven years men Discharged now and therefore he says that they have no time for to look at sush a thing as my Business is but I hope in course of the six weeks or 2 months I shall have my Discharge, I hope you will do your best to get the money redey for the Shortest notice and find out the best way for Send them up, in about one month time I shall ask the Colonel again for to write for me to Commander in Chief and ask him how mush the money will be –

Let me know who wrote the Last Letter and Let me know where is Daniel now and Caleb and evry Particular news let me hiar of it – Write Back as soon as posible with all newses – no more at Present

M Williams Corpl. 23rd Reg.


N.B. Tho’s my Brother is Discharged on the 16th Instant and he told me that he was going to Gwernhailed first and then he would go home, I expect you will have a letter from him before long and he promice that he would bri[ng] to me as soon as he would arrive there – no more

M Williams

Corpl. 23rd Regiment

Foot –



Morris’ letters: 7 January 1815 – discharge matters, stupidity of Cardigan postmaster



R. 15th of Instant

Gosport 7th Jany 1815

I Received your letter Dated 1st Inst on  the 6 of the same with the order of one Pound  Nineteen Shillings and eleven pence which I received of the Postmaster of Gosport, with great  Trouble because the order was not filled propaly the Name of the Person who paid them in the Post Office at Cardigan Should be  mention in the order, Instead of the order  was blank, The Pos Master asked me what was the  reason of the Postmaster of Cardigan being so stupit, and I told him I did not know but  I thought is was wanting of larning and then  he laughed at me – Dear Father I dont know what to say Conserning my Discharge, I dont think I shall ever have it without you will have some Gentleman to write to member of Parliment for my Discharge I have nothing  Particular worth to relate at Present, my last letter was according to out only the order was  inside of it and they have found it out and Charged Double  Price for it –

There is 4 or 5 Regiments Embarked here last week for America I dont know whether we shall go with this Fleet or not

I have asked you in 3 or 4 letters of my Brethren Daniel and Caleb but never have no answer of it, I am very sorry to hear of my Mother being sick I hope she is beter before  now and hoping that I shall have the  Opportunity of seeing you both before the  time that God think Propor to call you to  Depart from this world, I hope you will do  your best towards my Discharge let me have  your answer as soon as posible and evry thing  Particular no more at Present from your son

Morris Williams

Morris’s letters: 29 January 1815 – discharge matters, troops in town



R. 12th of February

Gosport 29th January 1815

I Rec’d your letter Dated 16th Instant on the 22nd of the same and am glad to find that you  are all enjoy your usial health as this leaves me at Present, am very glad to hear that Tho’s Glanpoolavon has wrote for my Discharge I have not hear a word of it yet, but I hope I shall soon.

I heard that this Regiment is to be Redused to 5 hundred and if that will be there will be about 5 hundred Discharged and then I hope I shall have my Discharge, This Colonel Delmer Refuse to make an Aplication for no man untill the Head Colonel of the Regiment will join his Name is Ellis and he will join in March, There is an orders from the Commander in Chief that he wont Grant for no man to have his Discharge without the Permision of the Commanding Offcier of the Regiment

There was 4 or 5 Regiments of Embarked in this Town about 3 weeks ago and they laid  in the Harbour till last week they Disembark again in the same place they dont want no Troops in America now because it is Peace on the foot but not Properly setled yet I have nothing more to say at Present I have not heard only once from Thomas since he was Discharge, write back soon no more

Morris Williams

N.B. I have keep this letter 7 days after wrote  if expecting a letter from my Brother

This morning I Rec’d a Letter from Thomas my Brother he is well and harty with a Genteelman in Chester and he said in his letter that he would write to you the same day as he wrote to me, I think it is beter for me to be sinlence about my Discharge now untill the Reduction will Take Pla[ce]

M Williams

5th Feb’y 1815

Morris’ letters: 20 March 1815 – en route to Holland, thoughts of discharge put on hold



R 26th of March

Gosport 20th March 1815

Dear Father and Mother

I hope these few lines will find you all  Enjoy your usial health as they leaves me at  Present I am sorry to acquaint you of our sudden Movement yesterday we had orders for being in Rediness for Embarkation in few days and we expect to Embark between this and  Sunday 26th Instant, We are for Station in Holand and the tells me that is avery good  Place for a soldier, I have nothing Particular worth to relate at present as soon as I shall  Arive there I shall write to you again, it is  no use for you to write to me untill you shall hear from me again, it is no  use for me to think of my Discharge for some time untill we shall come back  to England again, dont let my Mother hear of me leaving England, only my Brother William, tell Thomas of Glanpoolavon that  I am very mush oblege him for what he has dun for me but it is all in vain no use for me to trie to get my Discharge

There is about 2 Hundred of the Regt  to stop in England as a Recruiting Company  I have no more to mention at Present  I shall give you a Derection to write  to me in the next letter when you write to Daniel and Caleb Remember me to them I Remain your Dutiful son

Morris Williams

Corpl 23rd Regt foot